
The first time I saw W.A.S.P. I was a kid at the Orange Pavilion in San Bernardino, 1984. They were opening for Krokus and Helix, and I didn’t have the vocabulary for what happened to me that night. Forty-two years and more shows than I can count later, I’m still not sure I do. But I know what kept me there, and it wasn’t the buzzsaws or the blood or any of the things that got the band on the evening news. It was that Blackie Lawless meant it. I could tell that from the cheap seats at fourteen, and I can tell it from a photo pit now.
That’s the thing, people who only know the headlines never got it. The imagery was real because the man was real, and when the imagery stopped serving him, he changed it, at considerable cost, more than once. He made the record his label didn’t want and watched it go gold in a week. He built The Crimson Idol alone in a studio with no clocks. He still records to tape. He’ll tell you exactly why, and he doesn’t soften any of it.
He’s about to take that first stretch of his catalog back on the road (the “1984 to Headless” tour, forty-plus North American dates starting September 10 with KK’s Priest), and he’s six years into an autobiography, Tales From the Square Mile, that turned out not to be about him at all. He talked about the closet he lived in across the street from the Hollywood Palladium, three feet by twelve. The laundromat where they set up between the washing machines. The meat locker. Bela Lugosi dying seventy-five feet from where he slept, which he only learned decades later while fact-checking his own life.
Early in our conversation, he waved off my thanks and said that what he does and what I do aren’t so different. “We’re reporters. We write down what we see, or we record it, and we tell people about it.” I’ve thought about that line ever since. Here’s what he told me.
Take me back to before anybody knew what W.A.S.P. was, before the makeup, before the buzzsaws, before any of it. What was the actual plan when you started in ’82? Because I don’t think the way this began and the way the world eventually saw it are the same story.
You’ve got to understand, how we got started and what the world eventually saw were two completely different things. We were trying to get a record deal, and we’d been here long enough to know that most bands don’t get deals by playing live. They get them off demo tapes, because the label is looking for something they can manage, something they can put a quarterly report on. I wrote those songs in early ’82, “I Wanna Be Somebody,” “L.O.V.E. Machine,” all of that, and we did a set of demos. We put them out and we weren’t hearing back from the labels. So we thought, these demos are pretty good, why don’t we take them out in front of people and see what happens?
We had no clue what to do. We looked at each other and said, “Well, do we just stand still and look at our shoe tops?” And we thought, no, that’s not really us. It started morphing from there.
I was playing guitar then. Don Costa was our original bass player, and Don and Chris were butting heads, and Chris gave me an ultimatum. I knew Randy Piper from having worked with him before, but the problem was we had three guitar players and no bass player, and I knew those other two guys were never going to give up guitar. So, I was basically elected to play that instrument.
We never intended on playing live. And the irony is that we got known for the show. That first record is considered a classic now, but nobody was really listening at the time, because the show was so powerful. We were scratching our heads. At the end of the day we didn’t care, as long as it got us from point A to point B, that’s all that mattered.
































































